How to Start a Business That Makes a Difference with Bella Lam





Bella Lam is the founder and CEO of vegan, gluten free baking mix company, Coconut Whisk. Bella started this business during her senior year of college, what a badass! She shares advice for those who want to start a business, how food can be connecting for family, and what she hopes to do with her business. She is a positive, motivating, beam of light that was truly inspiring to chat with!


Please note, this episode has been transcribed by a computer, expect some typos!


Carly Puch

Welcome back to another episode of Consciously Clueless. I'm your host, Carly, and I'll be your guide on this journey from cluelessness to consciousness and back around again. Today on the podcast, I talked to Bella Lam. Bella is the founder and CEO of coconut whisk, a vegan gluten free baking mix company, Bella is a force to be reckoned with. I loved talking to her, because she is so inspiring. She reminds all of us that if we have an idea, or if we have a dream that we should just do it. She is also someone who helps with personal development, and business has a blog on wellness. She is seriously amazing. If you want to feel inspired, go ahead and give this one a listen. So thank you for joining me today. Yeah, I'm really excited to chat with you. Yeah, I'm

Bella Lam

I'm really happy to be here.

Carly Puch

Thank you. So the podcast is called consciously clueless. Because I really want to explore all those places between when you are feeling really conscious and like you're on top of the world. And then those moments of complete what is going on cluelessness and everything in the middle. So where do you feel like you're at right now? Just checking in?

Bella Lam

Wow, I love that question. I would say, I'm always in like, I'm always like, in the middle, I think I always want to. I know I'm a student of life always. You know, I, I've done you know, a lot of quote unquote, great things. But it's like, I know, there's so much more to learn. And I don't always feel 100%. But I have these, like foundational practices I put into my life that pulls me back that grounds me and that, that I'm so happy that I built and then there's like, you know, and then there's times where it's like, everything's so confusing. Everything's so new and and so it's kind of like I can be both, but I'm glad that I've built the foundation for myself to be able to keep grounded, if that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely.

Carly Puch

Thank you for that. Of course. So you are the founder and CEO of coconut whisk. Tell me a little bit about coconut whisk.

Bella Lam

Sure. Coconut whisk is a mission driven, vegan and gluten free baking mix company that helps modern families create healthy indulgences. So we offer baking mixes for pancakes, muffins, cookies. And yeah, our social mission is that we donate a plant based meal with every single purchase. And that is like the heart of our company. So

Carly Puch

yeah, I saw that. That looks amazing. I also saw that you have been working on sustainable packaging.


Bella Lam

Yep, exactly. So one of our goals within hopefully the next year is to change our current packaging from using post consumer recyclables to 100% compostable, which means you can literally I think you can just like you know, put in your compost in your yard, and it should be good to go and earth friendly. So we're really excited for that.


Carly Puch

So going back to coconut whisk. Yeah. How did that start? Where did that even come from?

Bella Lam

Yeah, well, it is a story that started in the spring of 2018. So I'll keep it short and sweet. But I was vegan for about two years. At that point. I was a sophomore, she was a senior in college. And when I went vegan, it was mostly because of my health was for my health and I had some of hormonal imbalances. And I really, I just really needed to Yeah, I just really needed to clean up my diet. And I found you know, living a plant based lifestyle through just watching documentaries, do my research, I was a public health student and now a graduate and I had a lot of vegan, vegetarian friends in my program, and I was just really curious. And so doing my research and then finding out that it's also beneficial for the environment and animals like that was something that really resonated with me and overnight I was like, I'm just going to try to go vegan. So, yeah, that was sophomore year of college and throughout those two years being vegan, I realized that you know, there's not a lot of options out there. You know, when I go to events when I go to festivals, or even when I go to the grocery store, like finding even like a good baking mix, you know, and as a huge Baker and you know, but also as a really busy college student. I wanted something that was semi homemade, but also healthy and there was like nothing on the market literally And so fast forward to to my my senior year was when I actually had the idea for coconut whisk and I was it was like it was just like a lightbulb moment. I was in the shower. Actually, I remember this moment

Carly Puch

and I was funny how that always seems to happen. Yes, yes. And I say this

Bella Lam

all the time. I'm like I think the shower Well, I think it's just because I'm unplugged. You know, like, you're not on your phone, you're not distracted, you're just like us with your thoughts. And it's such a beautiful place to just think. And I had that I had the idea there. And, you know, I, it was like crazy because when I told Myles about it, after I like, jumped out of the shower, grabbed my towel and everything, and Myles is your partner. He's my partner. Yep, he's my business partner in my life partner. We've been together for about almost six years now. So yeah, and so I'm like, Hey, Myles, how about we start a vegan and gluten free baking mix company. And he was like, All righty, where you're insane, because, you know, we were broke at the time, like struggling to pay the rent. It just wasn't cute. And you know, we didn't have a business. We didn't have business degrees, we didn't have business experience. But like, there was just something about this idea. And like, I've always wanted to start something on my own on the even on the side. Just just to let my creativity just flow and, you know, be the exercise, I guess. And so, you know, we put pen to paper and a week, a week later, I found out there was a business competition on campus. I just saw this poster. And I'm like, I think I should sign up for this. And so we did. And then we got hooked up with a mentor a business plan, you know, and then two months, about two months later, or actually not about? Yeah, it was like maybe two months after I found out about it, we, you know, we pitch at the competition, and we ended up winning food division. And so that was when the idea really got validated. And wow, yeah, we just launched from there.

Carly Puch

Sounds like the universe was like, Yes, this is a good idea. Here's this competition, here are these resources?

Bella Lam

Right? Yeah, it really feels like that. And I think it's because like, I think it's a combination of like, I always say luck is like, the it's a combination of like preparation and opportunity. And I feel like, yeah, when I was like, at 17 years old, I started doing yoga and and I just started really loving everything, self help and personal development. And just being open to like these opportunities, and always being curious. And so anytime an opportunity came up, just like the business competition, I was like, Yeah, let's do it. And so it feels like luck. But I think is just preparing yourself and mentally being there to, you know, receive, you know, from like the US, like

Carly Puch

you said, and to be able to, I feel like what I'm learning and diving into right now is that the universe is always talking, we just ignore it so much. So I think that opportunity you're tapping into it sounds like it's just hearing it.

Bella Lam

Yes. Yeah. And just listening, right? And just cutting the noise out.

Carly Puch

Yes. As like taking a shower and cutting the noise out.

Bella Lam

Right. Like sometimes, like, especially in college, I overextended myself, I stress myself way too much. But now I've learned how to I really enjoy just like being at home and not keeping my schedule so busy. Because there's so much there's something special about just like working with your energy and not just pushing yourself you know all the time, then you're able to listen, then you're able to to like discover these new ideas. And so I give myself space to do that as much as possible.

Carly Puch

That's such a good learning experience that I think will last all through life, to keep reminding ourselves to do that. Yeah, I hope so. I need it. Me too. Yeah. So how you mentioned your degree in Community Health or public health? Yep. Public Health. Yep. So how did that influence what your business looks like? Or what you wanted to do with the business? It seems related?

Bella Lam

Yeah, so I, I initially, I wanted to be a lot of things. Going out of high school, I was like, I want to be a teacher or a nurse or something with people because I just love helping people and but those fields for me personally, like, they just didn't resonate so much. Because I felt like the freedom of time and yeah, and you know, just, and just not being able to maybe express myself fully creative, creatively. And so, but I chose public health, just because, you know, like I said, 17 I got into yoga, holistic health, wellness, and I love the promotion. I love how public health is very, like promotional and it's I like how the field is a lot like being the middlemen and like, being able to make complex health information easy and digestible for the common person. And I think I'm really good at that just because I, you know, English is my second language and growing up as an immigrant, like, I had to simplify things, you know, and I had to like, like, how do I make sense of the world as you know, Someone who's a foreigner. So with that, it was like, it feel just really connected with me and I just loved how it could be, you know, in the field, like educating the public and I just love like, almost like it's kind of like a marketing thing. Like, for coconut West I love like the marketing creative aspect. And and I feel like I felt like for public health, there's a lot of like that creativity and just how do like, how do you communicate to, you know, the average Joe, like how to create a nutritious meal or you know, how to how to exercise properly, or, you know, it doesn't go that in depth for public health, but it's just like, you're, you're like a role model, you know. And so that's something I just like leaned on. I'm like, Alright, I think this is great. And so that's really how I, you know, first got introduced to the that's why I picked public health, it was just like, I thought it was a passion. It is still a passion. And it just, instead of being a public health educator, now I'm just, you know, kind of doing it in a more business see way, right. So, and yeah, and it really ties to like my love of like, wanting to advocate for like food insecurity and disability in general for health. You know, there's so much I still need to learn, but it's something I'm willing to continue to do and build coconut oil whisk alongside of that mission. So

Carly Puch

I was just thinking, as you were talking that I was wondering if you had someone who was an advocate for health and wellness growing up that really inspired you, or do you feel like maybe you got into this feeling you could fill a void that you wish you would have had?

Bella Lam

Oh, yeah, absolutely. That's a great question. I think it was definitely me. I don't think thinking back I don't think I've known anyone, really in my like immediate family or anything who was like, very gung ho about, like health, I think I was really the first one. I'm like, probably one of the only vegans in my family still today. Some vegetarians, like my younger cousins are, like, really Gen Z, and they all you know, so they're kind of almost begin. But yeah, no one really my sphere. And, and this is kind of like a deep, dark secret. But like, one of my biggest fears is like my parents passing away that like, yeah, it's just like, something like, terrifies me. And so like, I know, like, I want to, I want to keep their health at, you know, 100%, I want to make sure that I'm doing my part. And then helping other people, especially like, you know, marginalized communities or immigrants, how to understand that. It's a it's worth, I haven't really dabbled too much in but, you know, that's kind of like the deeper thing I want to make health like accessible and you know, you know, available to everyone and anyone so,

Carly Puch

so it's really personal. Yeah, to want to be a model for that.

Bella Lam

Right, exactly. Just I want to be a model. That's it. And so that's really why I wanted to public health.

Carly Puch

Oh, that's beautiful, that connection to wanting to model and show people that this is available, and it doesn't have to be so scary. To talk about health.

Bella Lam

Yep, yep. And making it easy. And, you know, like, I can't do everything with, you know, under the coconut was brand but as like a person like I can continue to advocate for it, I can continue to at least impact my family, you know. And so, yeah.

Carly Puch

So I just saw that you are a recent recipient of a grant for women of color and business. Congratulations. Tell me a little bit more about that.

Bella Lam

Sure. So it's with an amazing, amazing organization called iPhone, a woman and they partner with caress. And so I find woman is actually the platform I use for crowdfunding instead of Yeah, instead of Kickstarter, which was the original plan, but I decided to go with iPhone woman just because of their, their model of you know, what, giving, giving education out for free, like they had this whole course on how to crowd fund for free on their website. And they also Yeah, it's incredible. And like, I when I went into it, I was so confused. And I was gonna, you know, hire like, I was gonna hire a consultant for like, 1000s of dollars. But then that's a huge risk, because I don't know if you know how this will go. Right? It's just really hard. And so I really wanted to like DIY and just learn, and that's like, that's who I am in nature. I'm really like scrappy, and I'm like, Alright, how can I stretch my buck? You know, it's a mentality I think I got from my mom and my dad for sure. It's just like how to make that you know, the dollar stretch and so I yeah, I got Got involved in their program got some coaching from them. And it was just, it was just amazing. And we were able to reach our goal and actually exceed it. Were we final? Our final? Or final goal? Got to like 170% Oh, wow, yeah, we exceeded our goal by 170%. So that was really, really fun. And then, yeah, they just have these awesome grant programs that they automatically sign up all the all of the, like, if you're a campaigned if you're a campaign organizer, like you already automatically entered into these grants, and I was lucky enough to receive one of those. And so it's just like, it's just like, the community support is just amazing. And I'm really grateful.

Carly Puch

Yeah, that sounds so beautiful.

Bella Lam

Yeah. And their mission is just like, I haven't met, I haven't seen like another crowdfunding campaign. Like it, you know. So it's a really cool platform, if anyone who's listening is wanting to crowdfund or anything like that,

Carly Puch

yeah, I'll just definitely have to check it out. Just because I'm curious.

Bella Lam

Yeah. And they don't, you know, like, they don't do just like CVG. If you're like, a service company, if you're, you know, doing, like a media company or anything like that. It's, it's such a powerful tool, and they definitely help you along the way. That's awesome.

Carly Puch

Congratulations again.

Bella Lam

Thank you. Thank you so much.

Carly Puch

So when I was looking at your website, it talked about branding services. And so coconut creative company, it looked like it was something else or like a side business or something. And it talked about personal development. So can you tell me a little bit more about your work in that? Because I was really intrigued by it?

Bella Lam

Yes. Oh, did you find that through my Instagram? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so Cocona creative is actually something that I just created, kind of just for my own madness, like, I just love working on projects. And I just love like doing, you know, new new things. And so what kind of creative is it's pretty much like, I was able to grow coconut whisk from zero followers to I think over 11.4k followers now. And we have a Pinterest and Instagram and a Facebook page. And is that is just that the, the Follow? Follow there, the follower count, it's really like, the, the, the the community were able to foster and like, human connection and. And so that's, that's kind of what I was imagining for the coconut creative. It's like an affordable service for other small businesses who are literally just, like starting their social media presence, and they have no idea where to go because I remember I was, I was I was at that point, too. I'm like, I don't have a lot of money. I don't have a lot of, you know, I don't have like a marketing background. But I do have this like I do, I feel like I have this like natural. Like, I don't know, like eye for it, you know, and I love social media in general. Like I just love using it. I've used it since you know, I was a teenager, and I love branding. And so I just self taught myself everything DIY, the whole, our, you know, the whole brand direction and the strategy. And so that's kind of what I wanted to do for my, you know, my fellow peers, and anyone who's interested in just starting out and needing some help with branding, social media management, anything like that. So

Carly Puch

that sounds amazing. And I may be talking to you personally about that as I grow this podcast. Yeah, I

Bella Lam

love talking social media, honestly. So any, any way I can help, I'd love it.

Carly Puch

That sounds great. So what advice do you have for entrepreneurs or small businesses that are just starting out?

Bella Lam

I love this question. Um, I think first things first, there's like 100 things I could say. But the thing is, the main thing is to honestly just take action, and do one thing, actually not do three things every day that you know, will move your business forward. That'll either you know, I had I had someone my friend from bamboo, Zoey, she says like, she asked herself two questions every day. What how am I gonna make money today? And how am i How am I going to make my day easier to borrow? And so like and so going, Yeah, and right, so going off of that, it's like, how can you like, what can you do right now to just get one step closer to your goal? Obviously, you need to develop skills on like how to set like a vision because I think like visualizing and having a vision board having like top three goals, you don't have to overwhelm yourself because there's so many ways to create goals, etc. But like just start with like, let's say Yo you want to start like tea company, right? Like it's like have a vision for what you want it to be where you want it to go, maybe the customers you want to serve the problem you're solving, why you want to do it and then work backwards from there. And then, you know, that's what we did. When we started cooking on whisk. We're like, alright, we need, I just had a big poster board. I'm like, alright, we need a business plan we need you know, like, after getting our vision down, we're like, we need a business plan, we need to do our incorporation. Sign up with the MDA with all the all the licensing and stuff. And so it's just like, put, put pen to paper, write down what you need to do and do it every single day. It's not going to be cute, but you just got to start somewhere and keep evolving.

Carly Puch

I think that was something I battled for a long time with starting all of this is in my head. It couldn't be rolled out until it was perfect. And that's so hard, but at some point, one that's, you know, perfection is silly, and, and to just starting made me feel like then the momentum was there, and I could keep going. But that initial start is so hard.

Bella Lam

Oh, yeah. It's so hard. And so that's why like, I think sometimes you just gotta be like, alright, let's just do this. Like, for me, I was like, alright, let's just go for it. I had no idea. And then I was like, Alright, I'm gonna go for it. You know? What's the worst that could happen? You know? So I'm glad that you didn't let perfection kind of stop you.

Carly Puch

Yeah, it did for a while. But here we are learning to edit podcast and GarageBand and see what happens.

Bella Lam

Right. And like getting zoom, right? Yeah, seriously. Yeah, I totally get it. It's just yeah, you you have to start and you learn as you go. And, you know, you have to be humble enough to learn your lessons and move on from it and not let the bad things get you down. That's good advice, too. Yeah,

Carly Puch

you can definitely tell that you've learned a lot along the way with this business. I feel like it age like 10 years. Seriously. So what I have to ask, what are your favorite products? Like what are your favorite things to bake and make from coconut whisk? I haven't tried anything yet. But I'm really excited to I am a waffle fanatic. So

Bella Lam

oh my gosh, okay, well, yeah, our waffles. People do love our waffles. So I would have to. Yeah, I would have to say I do. I really love our chocolate muffins right now. The thing like chocolate person. And they're just so hearty, and we make them with like, no oil or anything. So you just add like plant based milk and you're good to go. So I would say that and then our you know, our fan favorite is definitely the pancake and waffle mix. Yeah, that's been like sold out like twice this year already. So yeah, we have to figure out some supply, you know, and in like product management stuff, but yeah, we're really grateful for that. And yeah, I think you'd really love you really love them waffles.

Carly Puch

Oh, that sounds amazing. So where did your interest in baking come from?

Bella Lam

Ah, to be honest, I think it started. So there is this like, moment actually, growing up. We lived right when we came to America. I was six years old. And then we lived. We lived here a few years I think I think was a few years. Yeah, at my uncle's house. And I remember, you know, me my cousin being in the kitchen and her her and I making like entre mom was like pancakes together. So it's that baking, but then she was also a big Baker, she you know, did cakes, and she would bring it to the neighbors and she would make pies and you know, bring it to everyone in our family. And it was just like, that was kind of like the first time I was like, wow, food is like love, you know, food is like a way to teach others and it's a way to connect. It's a way to you don't need to speak the same language to to feel something with it. While we get emotional just talking about food right now.

Carly Puch

It's such a love language. Yeah, yeah,

Bella Lam

it really is. Right. And so yeah, I think I've just I've just had this passion for food and especially baking just because it was my first introduction to like, American cuisine type of thing. And I just loved how it just made you feel good, you know? And so I just had a lot of good memories with it, and it just carried throughout my life. So

Carly Puch

and there's something about the gathering, right? Like the gathering the coming together, no matter what people are doing, or believing or thinking like, there's this space. There's this symbolism there.

Bella Lam

Oh, yeah, yeah, it's all symbolism, right? It's just the gathering. I have a big family and we you know, we we sometimes don't know how to like communicate with each other. It's like, we kind of is just like our way of showing like affection. You know, like, I joke around my, my dad, like he's not a very like physical person. Like we probably hug a few times a year and that's, you know, that's how we kind of do that, but like, I remember growing up, like he would slice me. He would cut up fruits for me and he would give it to you like that was like, Oh, thanks, Dad. Like that was really sweet. And so it's just like those gestures. Like it's been imprinted in me since I was little. And yeah, that's I'm just a big fan of what food can do and how it can gather people.

Carly Puch

So you mentioned that a few of your family members are vegetarian, but do you feel like your lifestyle and your business has influenced anyone to change their diet at all?

Bella Lam

Yeah, I would say I hope so. Yeah, I think is a good word. Yeah. Cuz, like my parents are, like, more aware of like, their meat consumption now. Because they're like, Wow, Bella's, you know, she's a vegan now for like, five years almost. And she's, you know, survive. And she's thriving. She's like, she's not like dying or anything. And she's

Carly Puch

business. And she right? Yeah. And

Bella Lam

they're like, they're like, Wow, this is really cool of her like, and that's kind of my mom, that's like, my motto for like, anything, I think, like my, my leadership style, quote, unquote, is, is just being a role model and, and being, you know, someone who doesn't just tell you what to do, like someone who shows you what to do. And so yeah, and I think like, in today's world, like, I think that's so important, like, if you're going to be a leader, you have to be authentic, like, walk your talk, you know. So yeah, I would definitely say, I've influenced my parents to, you know, eat less meat, and hope I'm like, a good role model to my cousins. They're all younger. And so that's, you know, that's all you can do, you can't really can't force anything.

Carly Puch

But it's so hard not to,

Bella Lam

it's so hard, right? Because, you know, and it's like, and then you just gotta, you know, educate and do it in like a compassionate way. And that kind of is what we wanted. Cobra was to be like, very compassionate, very approachable, like you, you do not need to be vegan or gluten free to be a part of our brand to enjoy our products. And so I think that that's something that really resonates with our customers, too.

Carly Puch

So, in the beginning, we mentioned this, but we didn't really talk about it that a meal is donated for every purchase.

Bella Lam

Yep, exactly. So we currently partner with Food For Life global. They're the world's largest vegan hunger relief. So they have like, yeah, yeah, it's really cool. And it's run by Paul Turner. He's, he's, he used to be like a former monk. And he was like a yogi, and he's a yogi. And he has, he lives in like an animal sanctuary. And where is it? It's like Costa Rica, but it's somewhere in the South. It's not a dream. I know. I'm like, You're living my life, my dream life. And he runs this, and he runs his nonprofit. So we've been with them for almost a year now. And then so yeah, so every online purchase, we donate a vegan meal to a kid in need. And then we're also looking at other partnerships that are more local, and just doing more work with, like, you know, when we have, you know, when COVID is out and stuff, we can do more as a team and maybe do, like, you know, there's human capital to you gonna be on the ground doing stuff. Right. But with that being said, also understanding the intricacies of, like food policy and how that's really like, the source and just making sure we're advocating for strong, strong policies for helping to fight food insecurity, you know, because food banks are great, but like, if kids aren't able to receive free and reduced lunch that like I used to, like, that's a problem and and so it's just like, how it's just like a whole system thing, you know, so how do we

Carly Puch

can you talk a little bit more when you say food insecurity of what you're talking about?

Bella Lam

Yeah, so food insecurity and like hunger in America that day, it's not like we're lacking like calories, we're not lacking calories, we're lacking like nutrition. So that's kind of what we're talking about here. And and so that's kind of that's kind of a direction I want to have as a focus for coconut whisk is to how to make our products even more nutritious like how to make our pancakes more protein infused, you know, and how to do it. Yeah, how to do it that how to do it in a way that that we can right now. Because it's you know, it's a lot of capital to have new products out and stuff so yeah, and that's and food insecurity is just like you it's just like low income families, immigrant families who don't have access to nutrition, nutritional food. And that's kind of what we I want to continue to focus on. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah,

Carly Puch

It's also great to find companies like yours to support that's got that ripple effect. Which is really great.

Bella Lam

Yeah, I like that word like ripple effect. Yeah, cuz, you know, we start off you know, we're, we sell vegan and gluten free baking mixes, you know, we sell cookies. We sell pancakes, but it's like I it's like, yeah, we want to have more like depth than that. And you know what, if someone, someone wants to go plant base, they see how easy it is with our cookies. They're like, alright, it's not that hard to go vegan. And then they're like, oh. And then it's just like this food thing. You know? Like, how do we make it more accessible? Because sometimes vegan can be it's just expensive, or it's just not something that everyone can have. And so it's just like, and that's a goal for companies just how to make it more affordable how to make it. So it's just easy, you know? So

Carly Puch

yeah, everyone has to have an entry point into this lifestyle. Right? I interviewed someone last week, when I asked how he became vegan. He said, I tried a veggie pizza. And I was surprised at how good it was. Wow, that is awesome. He was just intrigued. And so you know, I wouldn't underestimate some good vegan cookies and sparking someone's interest.

Bella Lam

Right, exactly. You just gotta Yeah. It's like that approachability, you know, you're approachable. And then you open someone up to like, a new way of living a cool community. So that's really cool. What a cool story. Yeah,

Carly Puch

exactly. So you mentioned yoga earlier, and kind of having some good habits that help you ground down. But what do you do now to slow down and become conscious? And has that evolved over time?

Bella Lam

Yeah, definitely the core of it has been like just movement and like doing yoga, that really introduced me to like holistic health and, and wellness. And so a few practices I do is, you know, I try to wake up early in the morning, I try to have like, a stable and solid, consistent morning routine. So I like to, I like to stretch, I like to try to just like sit and just like think about things I'm grateful for things I'm excited about. Maybe visualize something that I'm excited to see happen. And then I like to journal and then read for like, 10 minutes, you know, and when I journal is just like anything in my head anything, or something I'm grateful for. And those practices really help set myself up for a good day. And then, and then it's sometimes it's as easy as unplugging for the day, and you know, hanging out with my dogs I I love being around like animals and kids. That's like, my favorite thing ever. I think there's something about them that just reminds you of like, what it means to be like human, you know, just to be present and to be happy. So I love doing that. To ground me. And yeah, just like eating a good meal without being on my phone, making myself a good meal. Those are all really awesome things I love to do to help myself.

Carly Puch

That's a really good list. Thank you. It helps me what have I not asked you if anything that you want people to know about you? Err that you want to share?

Bella Lam

Ah, I think that's really it. I really appreciate these questions. Oh, they're really, they're really good. And it flowed really naturally. So Oh, good. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Should we? Should I like plug in like coconut oil? This is website or no? Yeah, this

Carly Puch

was my last question. Where can people connect with you or find out more about coconut whisking everything we talked about?

Bella Lam

Yeah. So coconut whisk.com is our website and then my personal Instagram is at underscore Bella lamb. And that would be you know, the best place to get in touch with me or to learn more about coconut whisk.

Carly Puch

Awesome. Thank you so much for taking time to chat with me today.

Bella Lam

Yes, this was such a great chat. I almost cried a few times. So thanks. Yeah,

Carly Puch