Finding Inner Compassion and Going Vegan with Cara Thibodeaux




Cara is a vegan food blogger, recipe developer, ethical traveler, social justice advocate and budding astrologist. She uses her platform to spread positivity and light while talking about serious topics. Cara and Carly talk about food, injustice, astrology, the compassion of animals and how the world is in a moment of transition to a better and brighter place.


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Carly Puc

Welcome back to another episode of Consciously Clueless. I'm your host, Carly, and I'll be your guide on this journey from consciousness tech cluelessness and back around again. Today on the podcast, I get to talk to Kara aka the Grateful girl. Kira is a vegan food blogger and recipe developer and ethical traveler, social justice advocate and a budding astrologist, which we will get more into in this episode. What I love about Kara is how she uses her platform to spread this positivity and this little light energy while talking about all these really important topics. I can't wait for you to hear it. Enjoy. And using some morning time on this weekend to chat with me. The first question I really love asking people the podcast is called consciously clueless.

Cara Thibodeaux

Yeah, I love that.

Carly Puch

Yeah. And that came from this place of me wanting to explore that feeling of like, oh man, I've like, I've arrived. I'm so conscious. I get it in the world. And then those moments where it feels like five seconds later, you're like, I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm so clueless. And like, everything that comes in between. and just being really honest about that. So I like asking people when we start the interviews, where do you feel like you're on that spectrum of consciousness, and cluelessness? Maybe today? Maybe in this moment?

Cara Thibodeaux

Yeah, that's a great question. And I love the idea behind consciously clueless, because it's so true. It's like you are you know, one day you're like, I have it all figured out. And then the next day, you're like, I am barely surviving. I know nothing. Yeah, and I feel like 2020 has definitely been like that for me. Like, it's been like a roller coaster of emotions, ups and down. You know, what I thought I had all figured out in February is so different.

Carly Puch

February, when was that?

Cara Thibodeaux

Yeah, I look at pictures like post COVID. And I'm like, Who is that person? Because it's totally not me anymore. I've been feeling like this huge, like spiritual awakening and this. And I think so many people are feeling that way. Right? Like, everything that's happened this year with COVID, the political environment and also, you know, the Black Lives Matter movement, like we're, we're seeing this huge shift in the collective and, you know, I think we're moving into a better world. But I think it's definitely something that, you know, we've got to go through the labor pains first, right, to get to this better world, that we want to create more equality for people and opportunities for people as well. And so for me, it's like, every day is so different, you know, depending on like, what the, what the mood is that day, some days, I'm like, I've got it all figured out. I know exactly the route I need to take, I know exactly what I need to do. And then there's some days where I'm just like, what is my life's purpose was supposed to be doing? And I think that's like, that's been the question I've been asking myself all year this year has been like, what is my life's purpose? Because I think prior to COVID, I was really I mean, I've always been, you know, doing my blog, but I felt like it was for different reasons, right? I felt like before COVID it was like, how do I, you know, how do I grow my following and like, just very, like, artificial. And lately, this shift has really started, like, showing me of, you know, what can I What can I do with my blog? Who can I impact? How can I help? How can I be of service, you know, so a very different shift as to what I was thinking before at the beginning of the year. So yeah, so that's kind of where I'm at is, like, this roller coaster of emotions of, you know, it's like, Tony, Tony has been that roller coaster, you are about to, you know, go over this hump, and you're scared, like, Oh, my God, like the drop is coming. But like, as you go down that drop, you're like, I've grown so much from this. And it's almost like this adrenaline rush of like, Okay, this is another one coming.

Carly Puch

I love you identifying the difference in like, how you're approaching your blog, let's say so it's, you're doing the same thing. But where you're coming from is different. I totally relate to that. When I was starting to try and grow this kind of platform. He had all these apps who would be like this person unfollowed you and bla bla bla bla bla, you know, like the business stuff that you are recommended to do. And it was so overwhelming. And also I realized most the time I didn't care. Yeah, like, Okay, fine. But I was obsessed with looking at it sounds like well, this is what you're supposed to do. And it just wasn't fun.

Cara Thibodeaux

Yeah. And I so agree with that. Yeah, I had all of those those same tools. Right, like the, you know, oh, wait, you know, you can improve your following count if you unfollow these people or you know, like, followed you. And I think we're moving into this, um, which I love. Also, too is like just thinking more consciously, I think we're going to move into more of a realm of conscious creation. Yeah, moving forward, I don't think that it is going to be a lot about your following or your likes. And I did a video just recently about hitting 10,000 followers on Instagram. And it's been something I've been working towards for three years. And then I got to it. And I said, Yeah, this is not what I thought it was going to be. And it's like, you know, you think like, Okay, perfect. Like, I can check that box off my goal list. But what it taught me was so much more than what I thought it would. And it was truly about, like, how do I be a conscious creator, about the following, but I think that we're gonna start seeing that a lot more, I think people are gonna start to, I think also with the way algorithms are now like on Tick tock, and Instagram with the real like, your content can actually start reaching people more who don't follow you. That's great.

Carly Puch

Yes, it's simple. Do you follow Natalie Brite by chane?

Cara Thibodeaux

No no.

Carly Puch

Definitely check her out. I interviewed her a few episodes ago, and she is a conscious business coach. Oh, I love that. And it's, it was so cool talking to her. And her talking about this, you know, this paradigm shift that you kind of just identified that's happening in business, whether it's a small business, whether it's health coaching, or whether it's she was working with like a law firm.

Cara Thibodeaux

Oh wow.

Carly Puch

About creating more consciousness in the work you do. And that approach, it was so everything she said, I was just like, well, yes, yes. Okay. That's what I need. That's what I want. And it is, is that mind shift? You know, for sure. So you said this year, you've had this kind of like spiritual awakening. Can you talk a little bit more about that? I'm so curious. Yeah. One of the things so like, bio, right, is spirituality.

Cara Thibodeaux

Yeah, definitely. And I think there's not a lot, I think, I think there's more people that are going to start talking about this more and more, especially after this year, but, you know, I've always been a very spiritual person, my family was Catholic, and I say was because they're not really like, devout or like, Catholics. But my parents were always very open minded. And I was always very curious as to like, I just loved learning about different religions all the time. And I felt I call myself from the book Eat, Pray, Love, she calls herself she's a cherry picker, right? Like she just cherry picks from any religion. And you know, whatever works for her is something that she can practice in her life, but she doesn't necessarily identify to any particular religion. And so that's just kind of how my parents like, brought us up. It was like, hey, like, you know, explore all different options and be open minded and to be accepting of everybody. And so I've always been a spiritual person. But this year, like, opened up the door. Something I had never experienced in my life. That Yeah, back in May. So my birthday was June 4. So back in May, I just, I felt so sick. Like it was the weirdest feeling. I felt so tired. I felt sick. I didn't want to get out of bed. I didn't want to post anything on Instagram. Like, I just, I don't know, I was just going through something like really dark almost. But it wasn't as if, like, I, I was sad, or anything, I guess. It was just like this weird feeling that had come over me. And I had this I had this dream about my grandmother who passed away about 10 years ago, and she is still to this day, my guardian angel and I had this dream and she was not religious either. And she came to me in a dream and she told me, she said, we were walking through fire. And I asked her, I said, Is this hell? And she goes, No, this is earth. And I remember asking her like yeah, it was crazy. And I just remember like, looking at her like, oh, what do you mean?

Carly Puch

Say more grandma.

Cara Thibodeaux

And she said, and I remember she looked at me and she said, Don't worry, you'll be protected I will protect you. And you need to just be on the lookout for signs like watch the signs listen to yourself you know that's that that is your spirit guides coming through and she also told me she said have you ever looked up the the rapture and I remember like waking up out of my sleep going like okay, I have never opened the Bible in my life, but I just need to open this up and figure out like what she meant by this. And sure enough, there is a there's a quote in this part of the rapture I guess that states those who will be left in the Lord for forever in the air, I'm not quoting it correctly, obviously, but um The word air meant a lot to me because what a lot of people don't know is that the Bible actually has a lot of references to astrology. And what we're what we're happening. What's happening right now is we're leaving the age of Pisces, which is, you know, a water sign, and we're leaving to Aquarius, which is an air sign, which is so crazy. And this is something that I was like, This is what she wanted me to know. And so I started diving deeper into astrology. I had a couple of readings with some astrologers. And it brought me so much peace, to know that like, I wasn't going crazy. Yes, yeah. And so now and I really I just I study a lot of astrology, it's something that I'd like to start doing more of, and even like, offering like, certain forecasts and things like that later on down the road, but it's given me a lot of peace in this really hectic time. And honestly, I think that's why my tic Tock account has been so popular. Because I talked about this exact same thing and people really, people it gives, it gives people a lot of peace, you know, knowing that, hey, the old and the new world, we're gonna exist for a bit, you know, and there's gonna be some push and pull. But eventually we're going to move into this this new era of this Aquarian energy, which is all about freedom and equality. And treating people kindly you know, so, so I'm excited, but there's gonna be some, some bumpiness along the road as we've seen this this week. It's been a crazy week. I am.

Carly Puch

My head is spinning because I'm relating to so much of what you're saying. Are you a Gemini?

Cara Thibodeaux

I am I am. I am.

Carly Puch

Okay. Yes, that makes sense. And I'm a Pisces, and I'm so I feel at all.

Cara Thibodeaux

You're so intuitive. Pisces are so like, extremely intuitive. And very, just like aware, empathetic. Yeah. So you're feeling this the shift for sure.

Carly Puch

Yeah. And sometimes it's overwhelming. But once I learned about that, it brought me peace, in the sense that I've always been a really emotional person, whether it's good or bad, and I like happy, sad, you know, just like I'm, I'm emotional. And that sometimes felt like this weakness. You know, I want to be a woman. And I'm not trying to show my weakness. And then to realize like, Oh, that's just a part of who you are. That's just a part of how you walk through the world and be a strength. I was like, oh, okay, yeah, I'm emotional. I care about these things. But sometimes it's really overwhelming because I can only feel

Cara Thibodeaux

Yes, I and that was something I learned about myself as well to going through some of these astrology readings was I had no idea what a sun moon or rising meant. I found out that I was a Pisces moon, which made so much sense why I was so empathetic and just very, you know, I am able to pick up on you know, the the feelings of others very easily. And it made so much sense as to why I became vegan because I was like, Oh my gosh, like, this is like my empathy, you know, my empathy and being able to put myself into someone else's shoes and live their experience almost made so much sense after learning that so I, what I love about astrology is I tell people like, Look, you're not necessarily going to be able to predict what's going to happen like to the tee. But what it does give you is imagine yourself going on a road trip, right? You're gonna turn your navigation on, that doesn't necessarily give you a picture of exactly everything you're going to see along the way. It just gives you a route. Right? And so that's what I look at it as like, Okay, if I can look at, you know, what's what's going to happen for the month of October, we know that October astrology astrologically is going to be a really hectic month. So for me, I've been thinking to myself, okay, let me limit the plans I have. Let me not commit myself to so much. And let me start going more inward, you know, thinking, reaching out to certain people, you know, so that's really helped me. So I'm like, I don't know what's going to happen in October for myself individually or for us collectively. But I do know it's going to be hectic and what are some of the coping mechanisms, tools and resources I can provide for myself and for others? To get us through this?

Carly Puch

Yes. Oh, my God, girl, you're speaking my language. Also, I never until you just said this. He just like made me You just blew my mind. Because until you just said that I never connected how beat like it makes sense that I went vegan. Pisces like Yes, so I'm son Pisces. Moon is Sagittarius, and I'm a Libra rising.

Cara Thibodeaux

Oh, I love that. And there's so much sense to why you even started you know, this podcast. And, and allowing people to think much deeper and sad, you know, scientists always about.

Carly Puch

Let's go deeper, let's think deeper into this lens of the philosopher. Yes, poor basically like, I'm sorry to everyone I dated because I'm always like, let's like, dig into that a little bit. Like, really analyze why you're upset. I love that. I have done some energy healing work. I found someone and I had that feeling like you said of being just peaceful because I talked to her. And it was the first time that I felt really understood about everything that was going on in my life. I was having some mental health issues. I went on antidepressants for the first time in my life because I was like, I'm like, scared at how down I am. And you know, everything. But it was such a good like, new world Oh, world, like Western Eastern, like, it just felt like she could understand that. And I could also supplement it with this. And she asked about, she's like, I don't normally do this, but like, what are all your signs? And I told him, she was like, oh, like, this makes so much sense. Yeah. And she's like, you had a heart. You've had a heart go of that, huh? Like, Yes, I have. I'm always bold in so many directions. And Pisces are like, all the other signs combined.

Cara Thibodeaux

Yeah.

Carly Puch

Like, yeah, this makes sense. Everything makes so much sense. I love how you describe that with the GPS, though. That is such a good visual. It's like yeah, it doesn't you're not gonna see everything on there. On the journey.

Cara Thibodeaux

Yeah, exactly. But it's just gonna it's going to help you get to where you need to go like what to be on the lookout for right?

Carly Puch

Yes, I love this. Okay, well let me know when you're ready to do readings. I do a live reading on the podcast, my birth chart and whatever else you want to do. I'm so that's so funny. You said that because maybe my manifesting skills are getting better and better because it just recently I was like, I want to find someone who would like do a reading on the podcast.

Cara Thibodeaux

Oh, that's amazing. Well, I would be really fun. So you let me know. Yes, I plan to study astrology next year, like going like full in depth into it. And like actually taking some courses and things and I always joke with my partner. I'm like, I want our kids to like, Come home one day and be like, hey, my mom can read your birthday.

Carly Puch

Yes. Oh my gosh, that's amazing. I've seen some funny things on social media like we need follow some of those astrology accounts like yeah, instead of having a gender reveal, you have like a sign reveal. Like when they're do like it's a Pisces.

Cara Thibodeaux

You're gonna love.

Carly Puch

This amazing like, what a fun party and I'm like, oh, you could just like decorate and

Cara Thibodeaux

I love it.

Carly Puch

Yes, um, so speaking of vegan, tell me about that journey. How did you become vegan? Where did that start?

Cara Thibodeaux

Oh my gosh. So it was I feel like I had the full like worldwide view went vegan. And the reason I say that is because everybody's vegan for different reasons. Right? Right. And so I first watched what the health on Netflix as many people will do in their vegan journey. So I watched what the health and I first went vegan for health reasons. And so I look back on that thinking like, okay, I went vegan for selfish reasons, essentially, like I went vegan because I was like, Oh my gosh, like, what is it doing to my body? And I ended up going through my fridge and my pantry and I took everything out that was like high fructose corn syrup. Me dairy products, like I just like, I took it all out. And then I was like, I threw I literally remember throwing it all away in the trash and then going, Well, what do I eat?

Carly Puch

Yeah, like, it was oh I'm hungry.

Cara Thibodeaux

So I started like going on Google and researching what I was able to eat as a vegan. And so I did that for probably about a week. And then I ended up going out. And I was like, Oh my gosh, I just really want some chips in case Oh, so bad. And so case I was broke my vegan journey at first. And then after that, I decided, you know what, well, why don't I try being like a mix of pescetarian vegetarian. And that to this day, I honestly recommend to anybody who's looking to do a, you know, an easy transition. Yes. It really helped me like when I was going out with friends, I'd go look at the menu first or you know, just like you're teaching yourself how to eat again. Right. And so I think a lot of people do it overnight. They don't know what to eat. They don't know how much they should eat, and then they become sick thinking that Oh, being vegan made me sick, but it's just like, No, you just you weren't really eating what you needed to eat. Yeah, and everybody's different. Everybody's body is different. So it's like give yourself some time I was. I was vegetarian pescatarian for about six to nine months. But in that time, it allowed me to teach myself what I like to eat again, and what I could eat. And then I also like just I was just looking at so many documentaries and articles and reading books, and I just like it was this, like plunge of information. And that's Gemini as well. Like, I know, I wasn't like Gemini like. And so so yeah, so I just did like a huge like purge of information. I learned more about how animal agriculture impacts the planet. And that was really the shift of I stopped eating fish at that point. I said, Okay, I'm vegetarian. But then I once I started learning about the effects on the planet, I started stumbling upon more ethical documentaries. And it was a I remember I was sitting at a sitting in a drive thru ordering food for myself. And I was listening to a sustainability podcast and she had a animal rights activist on the podcast. And she talked about the egg and dairy industry. And I remember I threw the food away and I said, I'm going vegan. And I was just when she explained what the dairy and the egg industry were, you know, you always think, well, you're not eating the animal. So how could you hurt the animal? But these are some of the most cruelest practices, even aside from just the slaughter houses, I mean, these animals meant sir a servitude, right and in captivity, and they never get to see the sun, you know, fill the grass, right? Um, and yeah, and so I watched so many documentaries, seeing, seeing the way that we have treated animals. I knew that energy is reciprocal, you know, like it's it's cycled recycled energy, and I just didn't want to be a part of that anymore. myself. I no longer want to be the monster who inflicts the pain upon someone else. Monster, ooh, that that's literally what I saw on these animals was I saw the anxiety and the fear and the panic and their eyes. And I remember like, I could think of that as you know, something that I had experienced in my own life, you know, having a lot of troubles with anxiety and depression. And I just, you know, you know, how debilitating that can feel. And just like, you just feel so helpless. And I thought to myself, I could never I would never wish that upon anybody not even my worst enemy.

Cara Thibodeaux

Yeah that's such a that empathy Pisces moon, that empathy is such a big piece of it. I feel like such a kindred spirit with you are your journey too. And you're like, Oh, well, first of all, it was selfish. I was like, saying like health. I went like lactose. I was lactose intolerant. So it was like cutting out dairy. And then I was like, well, I can't get up fish. I was pescatarian. And then, like it slowly just kind of stumbled down that hill of being like, yeah, I can't do any of it. And then it was the animal agriculture and the environmental stuff that I was like, Oh, this is bigger than me.

Carly Puch

Yeah, no, no, I love that. Yeah, you're totally right. You come to this realization of it's bigger than me. And you see, like, Okay, I'm just one piece of the puzzle. Yes, yes, definitely. Do you did you go through and I'll use air quotes for anyone listening here. The Angry vegan phase? Do you feel like you hit that?

Cara Thibodeaux

I did. I did. I definitely went through the angry vegan phase. That was like the first like few months of me being vegan. I don't know if I wasn't really angry. But I was really emotional, like anything I saw. I mean, if I saw a piece of like ham on a sandwich, I was like, bawling my eyes out. I was just very, very emotional. Everything triggered me. I honestly wasn't until I would say, like, it took me almost about six to nine months to really kind of learn how to manage this because I had to learn Okay, I am vegan in a non vegan world, that doesn't mean that we can't get to that place one day, but I'm vegan and a non vegan world and I had to start putting myself into the, my, into the the mindset of how would I have wanted someone to talk to me before I realized all of this and that was what I started leading with, with my blog with my family members with my friends. And to this day, so many of my friends are like Yeah, I was really nervous when you went vegan because I didn't know if we're gonna be able to stay friends but like you, you know, you really remained like so like kind about everything and like, I you don't make me feel bad when I order me at a restaurant and we're going out to eat or things like that, you know? And I'm like, Yeah, because everybody's on their own journey. And as a vegan, it can be really hard because you're seeing the plight of animals and you're like, but time is of the essence, right? Like, we don't have time to waste and I get it. But unfortunately, you know, people are all everybody is on their own journey. And we have to be respectful of that. Right? And also, maybe my morals are not the same as somebody else's morals. They don't feel the same way that I do. And that's totally okay. But right, I think so many people focus their energy on those people, right, who are not open minded, but there's so many people who are truly open minded, who are willing to learn, like focus your energy on those people. Those are gonna be those who decide to, you know, to decide to start their journey into, you know, a plant based life. I've been have this idea of the angry vegan I've been, I might like, record one of my solo episodes about this or a blog or something, because I wish someone would have warned me.

Carly Puch

Oh, yeah. Like, it's, it's just so it's like, when you learn about anything, I grew up in a very small town, and I went to college in Minneapolis. So all of a sudden, I was in culture shock. You know, I'm this white girl from northern Minnesota. And all of a sudden, I was just learning all these things, and not in a bad way. Just it was just a lot. It was like, oh, wow, there's so many things I don't know. And then I started in my sociology and women's studies majors that I ended up getting. And my mind was blown. I was like, all these systems are fucked. Like, they're all like, Oh, my gosh, and you have that feeling where it's like, all of a sudden, you're like, well screw everything.

Cara Thibodeaux

Yeah

Carly Puch

Because it's, it's all connected. And like, it's overwhelming. And I think specifically with veganism, that happens. And you have to kind of get through that phase, I guess. And yeah, I'm bad on the other side and be like, right, okay. What you said, how would I want someone to treat me or talk to me, is so important. And that's the point. I think I got to and I've mentioned her in the podcast before, she's gonna laugh at me for this. But my best friend from when we were like, we've been best friends since we were seven or something. She went vegan when we were in middle school. Oh, wow, way ahead of the curve. Nobody knew what she was doing. Again, northern Minnesota, right. Like everyone was like, talking about, like, what are you even talking about? And she's such a kind person, and never forced any of it on me. And I grew up hunting and fishing and doing all those things. And she was my best friend and still is and was just like, so like, let me be on my journey. And when that hit me, I really had this day where it hit me that I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm judging people in my life. For not getting on board with me after I've been vegan for five minutes. Yeah. And this girl has been my best friend for 20 years, waiting for me to wake the hell up. And I hate it like literally have this day and I texted her. I was like, you've been such a good friend. Oh my gosh, that's what I need to do for other people. And she was like, are you okay? I hit me that hit me. You know, like, it didn't happen because she was rude and awful and made me feel bad. It just happened because I could ask her questions. And, you know, she was really approachable. Exactly. It's all about keeping the door open. Right? And, and allowing people to ask those questions to you.

Cara Thibodeaux

And being approachable because so many people, you know, they see when when they think of vegan, I think that's why so many people are like, Oh, I don't identify as a vegan and plant based, right. And because there's so much stigma around the vegan word, because, you know, all we see about vegans on television is like PETA protests of like, throwing, like paint on people, right. So you know, you see the angry vegan, but I think that's definitely going to change. I think that this year, specifically, right, like we've seen hiccups with the food supply due to COVID. And I think a lot of people have really been like, Okay, well, yeah, it does take, it does take a lot of effort to consume the animal, right, when we could just actually get you know, plant based meats, or find these different alternatives that don't take so long to get us right. So I think that we're gonna start seeing a lot more people. I'm shifting to that and also as people become more spiritual and shifting their consciousness, I think that it's also about what type of food do you want to put into your body? Do you want to put low vibrational foods in your body or high vibrational foods into your body? And even as a vegan, that's something that I'm even still learning more how to do is I eat a lot of like, you know, processed foods, a lot of the plant based meats out there that are packaged, they have a lot of sodium in them, right? Like still, even though it's vegan, it's it's essentially a low vibrational food, right? Like it's something I can grow outside on my own. And so that's been something I've even been starting to shift more into. juicing more or just, you know, eating more fruits and veggies into my day to day. And I honestly feel so much better. So yeah, and it's it's totally a journey, right? And even within the vegan community as Yeah, there are. It's like, you've got the health food vegans, you got the junk food vegans, you know? And, and, and still, even within our own community people are like, why would you eat the, you know, impossible Whopper, you know, it's like guys like, I'm just I'm not eating me It's okay. But once again, here you have even within a group that's on the same side, people ask one group to wake up, right? It's like everybody's on their own journey. Right?

Carly Puch

Exactly.

Cara Thibodeaux

That passionate.

Carly Puch

That is fascinating to me. And I was, I don't even remember it was in some vegan Facebook group or something that I was a part of actually might have left it, it was just like, so much dandle. But there was this argument about veganism, and being extreme and being not extreme and being hurtful. And someone just wrote this comment about how if we're fighting to be making the world a better place and a peaceful place for animals, why are we being so mean to each other?

Cara Thibodeaux

Exactly.

Carly Puch

And I was like, well, that's a really good point. Like, if you have, like, there is that extremist, like in any movement or anything totally right? It happens. But like, they're nicer to the like, cow. They're saving and the people that are trying to ask them questions. I was like, I can't handle this group anymore.

Cara Thibodeaux

Yes, I've even been shocked. I mean, we're filming this. And October, it's October, early October. And you know, I have seen so many people who are vegans who preach compassion, and are literally wishing the death of the President. It's like, Guys, we cannot say that we are compassionate people, like compassion is not compassion, to some compassion is compassion to all no matter what. And it is a very difficult thing. Trust me. That's rare. Yeah, exactly. But it's it has to be a totally unwavering. Like, you have to be able to extend that compassion to anybody and everybody, even if you don't agree with them.

Carly Puch

Mm hmm. It's so important. And I think that that is really, really whether you're vegan or not a really hard thing to grapple with. He and I, I've worked as an advocate for survivors of sexual assault and dating violence. And and that work is actually one of the reasons I think, now that I look back that it was really hard for me because I'm so empathetic and be like, I was in secondary survivor with every story. Yeah. So I like I've shifted how I do healing work, you know, like that felt healing. But now I can do yoga and health coaching. And that can be healing, but it's, it's different. But anyway, I think that I've been most in pressed and inspired by the people who have been abused and traumatized, but still can have compassion. And still, and still can move through the world with that feeling of empathy and understand human nature. And I'm not saying excuse their abusers or any of that, but just like to move through the world and to like, let that go or to do their own healing that doesn't involve like sticking pins in a voodoo doll. Yeah. or whatever, although that does kind of kindness on healing. But I just that has been a source of inspiration for me for sure. on how to remember to have compassion, because, you know, that's brutal.

Cara Thibodeaux

Yeah. And you know, that's a that's so interesting that you said that, because that's, to me is like a full circle moment. You know, I had this whole journey, but I truly believe that it was my dog that that really allowed me to make the connection like I had, I had all the information, right, but just because me and you have the information doesn't mean you make the connection. And I found him he is he's a huge pebble. I had never had a pebble in my life. I'd always had really small dogs. And I found him on. on accident. I took the wrong turn on my way to go see my parents to wrong turn. Yeah, I took a turn. And I was like on autopilot. And I was like, oh, gosh, like, I was supposed to be going this way. And I meant to take this route. And so I'm turned on my GPS and it took me a different way to get to my parents house in Houston. And so it took me down all these country dirt back roads, and I saw this thing in the middle of the road and it was him he was laying down. Shortly after I rescued him. I was able to learn from the neighbor that was out there said hey, He's been out here for at least a week I know. And we've called animal control a couple of times, nobody's been able to catch him, which is kind of funny because all he does asleep now. So I'm like, I don't know how they didn't catch him. But I, I stayed with him for like 45 minutes because I didn't know if he was aggressive or not. I didn't know if he was aggressive or not. And I just stayed with him and talked with him. And like, you know, just got him used to me. And, and, and I realized that when I took him back home, I set them all up on his crate, I got him everything he needed. And I just the sadness that was in his eyes. And then, you know, over time, he just he started to light up, he started sleeping in the bed with me and my partner, like, you know, he's our baby now. And I thought to myself, someone left him there, and he didn't leave, he didn't leave because he thought that they were going to come back for him. And that's why he was in that spot the whole time. And I thought to myself, if he could forgive, and still have the capacity to love us know, like, hundred percent, like that, that to me was the turning point of like, wow, like, do we even deserve animals? Because like, look how Look, your mate me. I know his his story is so beautiful. I'm actually going to be doing a YouTube video all about his story. Yeah, he he said he's such a big, a big lovebug. But I thought I thought to myself, that was really one of the things that allowed me to make that connection was you know, animals, no matter what they you hear these terrible stories of things that happen to animals and yet they can still go to a family or still live out their life and and still trust humans, right? Even though things have we've done such terrible things to them. Trust us, you know? Yeah, so that's, that's really where I, I made that connection to my compassion.

Carly Puch

And animals are so much more connected. To like the vibrations of the world. I think that we tune out and we disconnect from as we get older. I think we are as children. Oh, sure. So much more connected to that. But like my one of my parents rescues dogs is a pitbull Great Dane.

Cara Thibodeaux

Oh my god. Cute.

Carly Puch

Yeah, I grew up having we had like cocker spaniels and my dad got like hunting dogs sometimes. So like little English letters, you know. And my mom and my stepdad, my mom really wanted to get another dog and she was at the shelter and this big lanky goofball who was who's now like 90 pounds, and is a total love bug, like you said, but just like Mom, you're what this is a this is not a cocker spaniel. Um, but he, he was, you know, found on the side of the road, and he had a gash in his head. So who knows what happened to him and his journey and his story, but then he just like, he loves us, you know, like, he wants to snuggle. And he gets protective sometimes and has some fear of men. Which don't blame him. Yeah. But he just like, came around. And if that can happen, and that can, that compassion can come through, like you said, it's just mind blowing to me. That that can that forgiveness is there. Yeah. And they're so they're so tuned in like my, my grandma, and she was staying with us. She has dementia. And she, he jumps. He jumps a little bit, and he's a big dog.

Cara Thibodeaux

Yeah.

Carly Puch

But he would not jump on her. Oh, well, you would sit by her or he would lay under her when she was on the couch or lay next to her and just put his head on her. Which was simultaneously the cutest thing I've ever seen. And then I was also like you Oh shit, you know exactly what you're doing because you're choosing not to do it with this woman. Like Wait a second. Yeah, you You do know what you're doing? Do you know what you're doing? But like he picked up on that, you know? Yeah, they pick up on stuff and the same actually the same thing with my grandma on my other side. My dad's dog like just sits by her and just doesn't jump or doesn't just like sits and waits for her to pet and I'm like God animals. Like we don't deserve that.

Cara Thibodeaux

Yeah. That's so true. I love that. Yeah, they are. They're there's so much more in tune with the vibrations of people right and and then the same like you said, like we we do have that as children. And I think that that's, that was honestly another thing that really woke me up was like, wow, I have always had this compassion. And I think of it as you know, the Wizard of Oz right at the end. She says you had that you've had the power to go back home the whole time, right? It's just like you had to go through this. journeyed to realize that and that's how I felt. When I went vegan. I was like, wow, like, I've always had this compassion to me as since I was a child and I knew what was right. And I knew what was wrong in my heart, but you know, society told me Oh, it's okay. It's okay. You can do this, you know if you can do this, because it's a pig, you can do this because it's a cow, right? And that and that, really, that's when I found my compassion. I woke up to like, oh, like they, they all feel pain, right? Like, we're all we're all here on this earth together. And we all have to care for one another. But yeah, it was it was a huge wake. Wake up. point for me is like, oh, I've had this compassion within me the whole time.

Carly Puch

I love that, like, you're just coming back home to what's been there all along. And it's so crazy that having these conversations, it's getting, you know, different and more mainstream, but it's still kind of like counterculture, which is so fascinating to me how deep that socialization is. I the interview that came out this week on the podcast is with Sargent vegan. I don't know if you follow him?